ASHLAND CITY COUNCIL
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Minutes for Charter Members Meeting
Economic Development Conference Room
Thursday, April 5, 2007
7:30 a.m.
Charter Member Meeting started at 7:30 am
Purpose:
Review Charter Updates
Session:
Meeting was called to order at 7:30 am by Ken Seidner, Chair
Roll Call.
Bernard Sargent, Anna Tomasek, Howard Scanlan, Dorothy Stratton, Bill
Strine, Ron Baker, Ken Seidner, Kay Conrad, Liz Hipp, Glen Stewart,
Ruth Detrow, Larry Paxton, Robert Valentine 1.
Dennis Vanscoy, Everett Devaul and William Benz are absent.
Ken Seidner- Mayor Strine, will speak first.
Mayor Strine: I prepared for this meeting by reading the minutes
and made notes on some issues.
(a)City Administrator: Give it serious
consideration. The position of Mayor, being elected, does not
qualify an individual to run a Water Treatment Plant or a Sewer
Treatment Plant or any of the operations our community has. It is
very difficult for me personally when an issue is brought to me and I
am expected to make the decision about it and I have no knowledge in
it. Replacing $40,000.00 dollar pumps at the Water Treatment
plant. This type of issue is highly technical and I believe that
we are at the point where we should consider at least City
Administration along with the Mayor and how you would end up appointed
by whom that is entirely up to probably Council would make the final,
based upon your recommendations, I would assume, make the final
decision as to how that would be done if they would consider that.
(b)Fire Chief and Police Chief: I
did note that through it there were some comments when you discussed
various issues about appointment of the Fire Chief, Police Chief, and
other Board members. There was an issue about the power of the
Mayor. In my view there are many limitations on the Mayor through
the Charter and through all the rest of the Ordinances that are in
here. I believe the emphasis should be more on how you can assist
the Mayor and not the limitations on the Mayor.
(c) Emergency/Term
Ordinance: This has been an issue. I do agree with you on the
Term Emergency, this has been an issue since I have been around. It
creates problems in the citizen’s mind. I understand
that. But actually they are not all Emergencies. I
know you have addressed that and I don’t know what Rick has to
say about that. The special assessment issue, I believe they
should have a session with Barry Keefe of Squires, Sanders and Dempsey.
Barry has been our Bond Attorney for this Community since about 1975
and he said all along there are quirks in our Charter that conflict
with the State Law and it just creates problems whenever we issue
bonds. He is very familiar with them so for him it is no
problem. He knows how to address them and what to do with
them. A new Attorney might have problems with them.
If I were in your shoes, I would listen to him.
The appointment of the Fire and Police Chief; that is an interesting
issue as far as the argument of Police and Fire Chief need some
protection of the Civil Service. I agree with that to a degree;
on the other hand, the community requires certain things and expects
certain things out of their Police and Fire Chiefs and if they are not
getting that, it is extremely difficult for the Mayor to change that
because both Chiefs can take a stance, so far, we have not had
any problems. We have discussed issues and maybe that’s
because they have that protection, I don’t know. Both of
the Chiefs can pretty much tell the Mayor, “Sorry I am doing it
that way 1”. I guess it is just one of those issues you
have to decide. Personally, I have not seen any position in the
City in the 30 years I have been here where any Division Director has
been let go except a Police Chief. That issue had a lot of
extenuating circumstances and didn’t need to happen the way it
did, but at any rate, that is the only time that has ever
happened. That was a result of going to the Civil Service.
In that case, the system did work. I believe it wouldn’t
have come to that if they hadn’t of had the protection of the
Civil Service.
(d) Finance Director: Whether the
Finance Director should be appointed or elected; that also is a
double-edged sword. That is a tough one for me after spending 26
years in that position. I don’t ever remember a time with
either of the Mayor’s that we disagreed very often. It was
not a problem. It is not to say that it couldn’t be with
different personality. Consider the Pros and Cons.
Those are the issues that I saw. Questions or
Comments?
Howard Scanlan: City Administrator, Who would set the base salary
for that position?
How do you come about ” THE” salary for the City
Administrator?
Mayor Strine: Council ultimately sets all of those, all salaries
with a recommendation from the Mayor.
Howard Scanlon: Would you look outside the City or would you look
inside the City first?
Mayor Strine: I would say both. I believe it is becoming a Safety
Service Director or a person in that type of position, most of them
have a lot of training in all areas of Municipal operations and it is
difficult to find somebody within the City Government who has training
in all of those areas, so I would think you would definitely need to
have the ability to go outside, as I think you should have with the
Police Chief and Fire Chief.
Ken Seidner: Do you know Bill, are there various other Cities who
have those types of individuals who, with educational programs or any
certifications like I think Anna was telling us about; and what
certifications are needed to be for a Finance Director, that
information is out there.
Mayor Strine: Yes with those Job descriptions. Wooster and
Mansfield are close.
I would like to hear a little feedback here on this discussion
regarding a City Administrator and how you feel about that.
Ken Seidner: We are taking it all in. These 4 things from
the last meeting minutes and this we are taking into consideration
right now. One of the things we have discussed is on combining
the Health Departments, the City/County and our position on that was,
Council could do that anytime they wanted to. It looks like it is
already happening to us. I mean I really don’t see that as
something this committee needs to be reviewing. I see we have
something here on this but it looks like it is already in the works, so
I don’t see that needs to be a recommendation. That is kind
of our position.
Mayor Strine: That was one of the areas that was discussed at the
Council meeting Tuesday 4/3/07 night, Richard Wolfe II, Law Director
was there, I didn’t hear any comments from him, but Al Sanders
was there and it is in the Charter now and the way he stated it, was as
though there would have to be a Charter change.
Howard Scanlan: It would have to go on the ballot either way,
whether you would put it on, because any recommendation we give you
whether it is for this or not, City Council and the Mayor has to decide
whether to put it on the ballot or not, so regardless of what we say
about it if the City wants to put it on the ballot, that is up to you.
Mayor Strine: That is true of all these things.
Ken Seidner: Looking at things at what Council was currently
working on. We haven’t made any decisions yet on anything,
we are still looking at it. It came up at the last meeting regarding
the City Administrator, a Safety Director; I know there was some
concern that you (Mayor) are overworked.
Mayor Strine: It is not that a person gets overworked I
don’t think, in my case, anyhow, a person might enjoy going to
ribbon cutting, giving speeches and those type of things. There
is a lot of it and there could be more. I hate to make this statement
but I am going to anyhow, you know it might be a good reason to have
term limits. In my particular case, a person can get a little
stale in one position and when I start thinking along the lines of well
if I bring this issue up, how much uproar is there going to be from the
public? I am just trying to be honest. Don Richey was Mayor for
20 years and it did not seem to bother him.
Bernard Sargent: Mayor, where from your position today, where
would the Administrator fit into your organization of the City.
Who would they answer to? What types of direct authority would
they have?
Mayor Strine: I see that position, the Mayor speaking
overall. There is this public image, going out making the
talks and going to all the public functions and then there is the
Administration of the City. To me there is a clear distinction between
those two and that is where I see the Administrator coming in and
running the City, still responsible to the Mayor. But I think any
reasonable Mayor who doesn’t know anything about Water Treatment
or anything else is going to count on his Administrator to run those
things.
Kay Conrad: So you would have both the Mayor and the City
Administrator?
Mayor Strine: I don’t know if there is any City, well in
some states, they do not have a Mayor.
Ken Seidner: And you are thinking this Administrator would be
appointed or picked by the Mayor, then approved by Council, so it would
not be an elected position?
Mayor Strine: No it is not. I would see it strictly as the
pleasure of the Mayor, Mayor’s assistant.
Dorothy Stratton: I would like to ask, how would you handle those
difficult decisions that you don’t have to train anyone to handle
that process you use to come up with your decision?
Mayor Strine: I still talk to the people who are the Division Directors
and it has been quite an issue for me to get the Division Directors to
take the responsibility that they have. I think that has been one
of the problems over the years that they have learned not to do
anything unless the Mayor says to go ahead and do it, but when really
they are the best qualified to move forward and make changes that need
to be made or corrections, or all of those types of things.
I think we are slowly getting to that where they are accepting the
authority to get those things done. For instance, this is just an
example. Historically, the division directors do not consider
where the money is going to come from. They know that they have
to replace the 5 pumps or they have to pave another street, or whatever
it is. There is no good planning on recommending to the
Mayor, okay we are going to get 5 new pumps but in order to get 5 new
pumps we are going to have to increase the water rates by 2%.
That is the type of planning that needs to be done and it is not
getting done.
Dorothy Stratton: So, Would having an Administrator facilitate that
planning or would it give the Mayor an opportunity to be more of a
conceptual leader?
Mayor Strine: I think it would do that and then you would have a man
who knows and understands why we need more pumps, why we need to do
what we do. Somebody in that position would have the knowledge to
know that before he makes a recommendation to the Mayor to get 5 new
pumps, he knows how much income he has.
Kay Conrad: Your Division Directors are hired through promotion
or they are credentialed? Do we assume the Division Directors
have the ability and the knowledge and the background to make the
decisions so you are able to follow them with a clear conscious?
Mayor Strine: I have been here, this is my second term as
Mayor. I cannot think of anyone who I have appointed as Division
Director. They have all been here.
Kay Conrad: If the Mayor can count on the Division Directors to
be top notch then take your advice that is certainly within your realm
to do so as opposed to having a City Administrator doing the same
thing. What I am saying is; why do we need both if you have
Division Directors who should be credentialed in some way to say yes,
we need it. You’re the talent here, I can sign off of this.
Mayor Strine: Ideally that is the way it should work, practically
speaking.
Ken Seidner: Appreciate your input Bill.
Glen Stewart: I appreciate you affording us the opportunity to talk to
you this morning and to discuss this and I am looking for ward to your
final presentation to Council and I think you have looked at some, in
my opinion, very important issues that may be issues in our Charter
that might need either updated, corrected for the current way business
is done today. I have one that may be considered to be a house
cleaning issue and I haven’t picked up in my notes that you have
addressed it, Section 62, Ballot requirements. Have you touched
base on that? I am not sure if that may need to say it is
an update to include current technology. It specifically states
you mark boxes with an x and so on. And I think with a current
voting process, it may need some words changed. Don’t know
that for sure. I am not the Law Director. That is something
I picked up on. I also concur with the Mayor’s comments on
the Chief of Police and Fire Chief; I believe those two positions among
some others have a very high portion or general fund budget and they
would need the opportunity to assure this community that we have the
best management position available to us to run those two
positions. Thus look beyond the City if necessary. I have
no problem with if the individual has the correct credentials and he
lives in Ashland Ohio, that is great and should even have preferential
treatment all things being equal. I know you have looked at that.
Back to the Health Department. I really believe we are not in a
position of moving one way or another, we got some feedback from you of
the Minutes so we invited Al to share with us that you may want to do
the same thing to have, I think it is section 50, I am not sure that
our Law Director, I don’t know what his position will be whether
that section of the Charter will allow us to make a change if we chose
to or if maybe we shouldn’t. And I think for our Citizens
prospective, non-elected people as you are, if I am looking for your
input, are we okay with where we are at or may be we are not. But
I really think you may have a different view of what we do. Maybe
we are too close to the situation to see the picture as a whole.
I don’t want you to dwell on something that you have already
resolved, that is not my, I am not asking you to re-hash. I am
here to share my thoughts with you and that is exactly what I am
doing. We have had a fair amount of calls relative to the Cable
Service and the Utilities, and it is addressed in here and I
don’t know if we want to go further than that in the Charter or
not. We had some discussion on it and the Council has been looking at
the specific cable contract in the near future. I am not sure
what the Law Director will say about this. I would like to
comment on the Mayor’s thoughts regarding City
Administrator. The Mayor and I, we rarely ever differ but when we
do, I have a little bit different view on the City Administrator.
I do not disagree that there may need to be another “Layer of
Management”. My view of the Mayor’s position
and I am catching him cold. The Mayor is, and I am going to weigh
the Mayor to any Chief Executive Officer, and the people elect that
person to sit in that seat to manage the community as a whole to make
sure things are run properly and there are very few Chief Executive
officers that have the technical knowledge for every department that is
here. And where we whole-heartedly agree is that those positions need
to be astute in both the business end and the people management
end. When your management team is under the Mayor, is the
allowable, competent management and competent in business
decisions. The Mayor has got the best team he could have. I
am absolutely not saying that we do not have the best team; I am only
saying that this is a $ 50 million dollar business and I tend to agree
with the Mayor, there may need to be some assistance in there to help
manage the $ 50 million dollar business. We have 22 thousand
stock holders if you want to look at it as a business standpoint and I
personally believe that today, we have a pretty high-ranking, overall
management team, but I spend a lot of time with the Mayor and I have to
tell you, from my perspective, his hands are full and not because of
incompetence of the management team, it is traditionally how it has
been handled and Bill addressed it that he is seeing some
changes. I have no other specific comments on the Charter but I
want to re-emphasize that from my perspective that I am looking forward
to this Charter Review Committee which I think is a wonderful slice of
our community to give us a feedback on your perspective and then what
you feel may a need to be addressed. Again I appreciate it.
Ken Seidner: Thank you. We will go around the table now;
anyone have anything they want to add to that?
Kay Conrad: The only thing I would question is again with the
City Manager/Mayor; Would the Mayor just then be a figure- head?
Mayor Strine: It depends how it would be set up. If you
reported directly to the Mayor, no he just wouldn’t be a
figure-head. If he was totally hired by Council and reported to
Council then I would say then that’s when the Mayor is a
figure-head.
Howard Scanlan: If we did have an Administrator, Mayor, and
when you take a leave of absence, and Mr. Wolfe takes over; would then
the City Administrator take over because that is in the Charter
also. That section then would have to be changed also.
Glen Stewart: A lot of that depends exactly on what you already
touched on. It would also depend on the Job Description.
The job description would have to marry in the Charter so you have to
correct the job description also.
Dorothy Stratton: I have a question regarding your perception of
the role of this committee. Sometimes here at the meetings we say
Council can do this at anytime they want. I hear you saying that
you want us to address all of these things that may be you have the
power to make changes or put something on the Ballot; is that your
perception? Do you want the issues to come up at this committee
and be sent to you or can we say Council can do this so we won’t
deal with it.
Glen Stewart: Your committee has the power to, Council can do all
of this, and we don’t need to ask for anything. My
perception is as private citizens and residents of our community, those
issues you feel need to be addressed, certainly we want to bring to it
and I would like to hear your input on our thoughts. If you think
we should handle it that is fine, I just think it is an opportunity to
have your thoughts shipped back to us on issues that we brought
up. Will we accept all of your recommendations? Probably if you
would send 10-15 of them up, probably not. I think you all will
be encouraged to screen what you will decide to put in your final
report and prioritize them. And as previous Charter review, you
may suggest that some of these should be considered by the next
commission.
Ron Baker: Glen, would we be safe in assuming that Council is
going to look at this and possibly study it? I guess what I am
driving at is I cannot see a duplication of efforts if Council is going
to look at it and us do the same thing. Now I can see us recommending
to Council that they do look over this but as far as us making a
recommendation off of this, it appears to me like Council is going to
be looking at it anyway in some form.
Glen Stewart: I am in an awkward position. Obviously we
asked Al to come in and share, quite frankly I did not understand
and still do not totally understand the Health Department being managed
by to Boards. We have been very fortunate in my opinion that Al
Sanders has two bosses and has been as successful as he has been. Any
of you that have worked for two bosses would know that sooner or later
you are going to fail in somebody’s eyes. We are not here
to make any decisions based on several of us being here, that would be
totally inaccurate. It may come up.
Robert Valentine 1: I am a strong believer in oversight. I had
the opportunity years ago when I served as Commissioner, we talked
about such. When I looked at it again, my concerns were 2
separate boards, but I still want City representation. Should
that Board be based on population? Finances were another concern
that I had, because what you have there is on the County level, you
have a levy, ours come from general funds. Al, at his
presentation the other night, I did not completely follow him but he
said that could be worked out which made me feel a lot better. I would
like you people to understand that I think it is so important and that
is why you should have that opportunity to bring him in. The
message I was getting is just what you said before, the Council can do
this.
What do you mean by protection by Civil Service?
Mayor Strine: Any decision that the Mayor would make regarding
discipline with the Police Chief or Fire Chief can be appealed by the
Civil Service Board. Other Division Directors do not have that
protection.
Robert L. Valentine Ward 1: The point is you have control over all the
Division Directors, these Division Directors too. There is a
system called 2 and 1 or 3 and 1, is that not where by you can take,
the people that take the test, the top 3 then the Mayor can select one
of those three, isn’t that a system that is being used in some
cities throughout the State? And is it a good system?
Ron Baker: Yes, I am in agreement that the fact I think we should
be able to go outside the City for candidates. But they have to
take the test like anyone else. Then the Mayor would select
the person.
Robert L. Valentine 1: I had a concern since I have been on Council
that is our responsibility, I don’t understand that what we pay
the Mayor and what we pay some of the other Division Directors, I have
concerns with that. I think that the responsibility that
the Mayor has and what he has to do; that is our responsibility and I
think that is something we have to look at for the next time. And
as far as, Kay asked that question. There is what you call a
strong Mayor and weak Mayor and I think when you start this type of
thing with the Directors to help you, you create a weak Mayor type of
City government. I have a concern with that.
Ken Seidner: This is what we are looking for; we are still on
this fact-finding. The 4 things we have laid out there that I
said we know we are going to look at. We can add that to
this list. Again that is where we are.
Robert L. Valentine 1: If you don’t know of the 2/1 or 3/1
with the outside and the other thing if it is going to stay like it is
now, a suggestion would be if you stay with what we have, the Fire and
Police Chief then I think we ought to have the old system we have just
for those two departments where two Councilman serve on Committees and
they are two committees. If we stay with what we have, we are
again with oversight and that is what I am pushing. The more you
people know, the better off. I applaud what was said
by Glen, that I appreciate what you all are doing because I had the
opportunity to go through what was done at the last Charter review
committee and I couldn’t believe all of the meetings went through
all the Minutes. So I know what you are going through now and I
think it is so important because you represent the people out there.
Larry Paxton: I appreciate being here. This is information
I will share with each of you regarding the Finance Director’s
position and some of the training. Two things- one is
The Treasurer’s office in serving us. When you work
in the City of Ashland and the Finance Department you are required to
have a Bond as we handle the Finances of the City, transferring money
and depositing money and things like that. That is a very
important item and the reason for that is; any Finance Director Is
required to be bonded currently by the City as well as some of the
employees of the Finance Department. That possibly depending on if they
all have tough times in their lives sometimes and if their finances are
in dispute and should be at times possibly and some people may not be
able to be bonded for insurance. Some information you should know
while we are talking about the Finance Directors position. That
is important. That is all I have Thank you very
much.
If you have any questions, I will be more than happy to answer them.
Dorothy Stratton: I have a question regarding what you think
should be the educational background for this position of Finance
Director.
Larry Paxton: Education is very important to be Finance Director. The
problem I have gotten involved in is several friends who are Finance
Directors, unfortunately not everyone wants the financial
responsibility to sign documents in the Municipal Corporation.
There is a liability to you personally as well as the Municipal
Corporation. I have an Accounting Degree, Associates degree; I do
not have a Bachelors degree, through North Central Stage College.
I am very proud of that because I earned that degree while I was
putting two children through Ohio State. So I understand and
appreciate the Educational backgrounds of people that serve in
this capacity. Unfortunately with Municipal governments, it is
not always easy to find people to take on this responsibility and to do
this. Like I said, there is some personal liability, and you make
a mistake and guess what? You lose your job and more importantly
you lose your ability to make a living as a Finance Director or
Municipal Finance Director. You have to go someplace else.
Along with this I carry a School Treasurers License and that is why I
obtained this training, it is a requirement and license as well.
Education is very important to be a Finance Director. Accounting
is still accounting and hasn’t changed much over the last 50-100
years. We still Debit things and Credit things.
Mayor Strine: I would just like to add to that. Back in
1976 when I started as Finance Director, it seemed like back in those
days it was fairly simple compared to today, they have enough and it
would be extremely difficult for someone with no experience in
Government Finance to step into a job. The good thing is there
are very good people working upstairs and they can handle getting
us through. One of the most important things of a Finance
Director is their ability to get along with the rest of the people in
the City Government. It is extremely important because there are
so many different things that happen and it just takes the fact that
they go through all the appropriations and keeping track of all the
expenses, it just takes a lot of cooperation and you don’t need
somebody coming in that is going to change all of the policies and all
of the issues that have developed over many years, so I think one of
the most important things is getting along with one another, very
important. How do you measure that?
Ken Seidner: I would agree with you. You were talking
about these Department Heads and you need to look at, if we need 5 new
pumps, where is the money going to come from; they have to look at that
person for help along the way and it has to be a 2-way street. So you
are right; you have to be able to get along, answer questions because
again, that Finance person in my mind is the expert for that Department
Head.
Anna Tomasek: Obviously the Finance Director is a very important
position for the City of Ashland and absolute collaboration and
cooperation with the elected officials and City Divisions is very
important. Your strong Mayor type of government is important, to
have citizens have a voice and who they choose to be the best qualified
candidate. IT is a position of trust; it is based upon
qualifications, and years of experience. It is continuously
changing due to the government work. Governmental Accounting
Standards; They are issuing statements and actually the City of
Ashland is running a little bit behind on these and not just the
City of Ashland but the State of Ohio. Right now, all
Government Finances were at a crossroad because there are issues with
the bonding; it is becoming very expensive to do audits now. We
are required by the State of Ohio to have 6 hours of
training. The Finance Director is Bonded it is in the
Charter. I actually would recommend raising the
limit. That needs to be looked at. When I became Finance
Director, every Finance Individual in the City, they hold money, the
bond is currently at $ 10,000.00 dollars. We just had an
instance, an investigation of fraud in the Utility Department
where the individual, it was at a $9,000.00 dollar threshold. I
am working with our Bonding Agency to look whether or not it is
cost-effective to raise that. But right now the Finance Director,
the Municipal Clerk, the Judge, the Law Director and myself are all
bonded and that is per the Charter. But may be the limits might have to
be tweaked or increased at some point. It should probably be
looked at. The other thing from our audit, Our financial audit is
done annually and one recommendation in the management letter is they
are recommending that we should probably have an audit come in.
There are pros and cons to having an audit committee but may be it is
something you guys can look at. I am not for or against it.
It is a State requirement that the State Auditors office is requiring;
so that is something also to bring to your attention. There is
definitely some Pros against having it, and the Committee knows about
pros for it. It is something the Citizens should decide for
oversight. That is all that I have to offer.
Ruth Detrow: Mostly here to listen and watch progress. One
thing to mention is the Charter is our Basic Law for the City, most
important and you as citizens are the most important people in town
right now because you are looking at this and examining it.
Things are going well, we have a good Mayor and a good Council, we do
need though to think about worse case scenario; you are trying to come
up with laws that will protect the citizens of Ashland and it is very
important that you don’t just say that things are going
beautifully now so lets let it ride because you never know when you
might get someone who is either weak or dishonest in a public job and
you do need to put safeguards in there. Thank you.
Ken Seidner: Any other questions or concerns?
Mayor Strine: Just one clarification in what was spoken here regarding
the Finance Director. Just to clarify, the requirement in the
Charter now to run for Finance Director. It is not strong enough
language in there. Right now being elected in the City and then
not being bondable.
Ken Seidner: That is a concern that we will address in some
form. We will review this again. Also we will contact Al
Sanders to invite him to our next meeting on April 19, 2007.
Mayor Strine: Regarding the Health Dept. Right now there are two
Boards. One the County Board and one is the City Board. The
City Board is appointed by the Mayor and they actually have two
budgets, the County budget and the City budget and I think the issues
that are going to come up is that if you combine them, then it is into
one budget and how do you finance that? Right now, the money that
the City pays to City/County Health is appropriated in the City’s
budget and they send bills over and we pay them through that City
Budget, it really takes an “Al Sanders” who understands the
operation of that whole thing to know which bills to send to the City
and which ones to send to the County. That is part of this
problem. It is very confusing; on the other hand it has worked
for many years. We have a great health department. So then the
issue would become, if you combine them and make it just a County
Health Department; How does the City pay for its share? And what
control do you have over that? Because if it is one Board and
that Board says well, we are going to need “X” amount of
dollars from the City, the City Council no longer has any, well they
would still have control of it, but may be not pay it. It would
become an issue, I am just giving you a little bit of background on
what you are being asked to do here.
Ken Seidner: I understand what you are saying, it is sort of like going
back to when I was in the service; “Here is your budget, here is
your pool of money”. Hey we have $100,000.00 dollars here,
if we don’t spend it, we are going to get less next year.
Howard Scanlan: I am looking at page 10 here, I am looking at
expenditures, and it fluctuates quite a bit. That would have to
be addressed through the County also. It fluctuates, 240, 260,
250, 269, and 244. If there were a set price for the City to kick
in to one unit, it would set that County; to the City’s portion
if we combined.
Kay Conrad: On that Board, if it becomes just one, would the City
have any representation on the Board itself.
Mayor Strine: I think that they are looking at something like Bob
said, that is an issue. If you have 10 Board members and 6 of
them are from outside the City and 4 of them are inside the City you
are pretty much going to go with people want outside the City. It
is extremely confusing.
Ken Seidner, Chair person: Adjourned the meeting at 8:35 am.
Meeting adjournment at 8:35 am.
Submitted by
Valarie
F. Bishoff
Clerk of
Council